Why FFX-2 DOESN'T suck. possible side effects if Gondor and Yoherz show up: headaches

[Slythe]

Like the title?

Here are my reasons.
1:Because it gives you insite on the tough Yuna
2:The battle system
3ress-spheres
4:The cutscenes

and more.I just ccan't think of them at the moment.

[Gondor Reficul]

Okay...I'll give you my mirrored explanations to your reasons:

1. Yuna dresses up like a f-ing sl-t, totally ruing her new tough personality.
2. The battle system really shouldn't have changed from FFX...period
3. The Dressphere SYSTEM was alright, a b-tch to deal with in battle, but alright. The designs were Grade-A hentai material. Anybody got the Berserker Dressphere? You know what I mean.
4. What about the cutscenes man?

[Lewelynikki]

Originally Posted by Gondor Reficul

Okay...I'll give you my mirrored explanations to your reasons:

And There He Goes Again U_U' *Hides* XD

Originally Posted by Gondor Reficul

1. Yuna dresses up like a f-ing sl-t, totally ruing her new tough personality.

WHEN WILL YOU UNDERSTAND GUYS!? DON'T YOU NOTICE GLOBAL WARNING IS NIOT JUST HAPPENING IN THE EARTH PLANET!? XD SPIRA IS A FUTURE PLANET, SO GLOBAL WARNING MUST HAVE ADVANCED A LOT YOU KNOW! XD

Originally Posted by Gondor Reficul

2. The battle system really shouldn't have changed from FFX...period

Ooh, There You Are Commiting A FATAL Mistake, C'mon Gonder, You CANNOT Say Battles Weren't Cool, This Was A TOTAL BUMMER, It Was Almost Realtime

Originally Posted by Gondor Reficul

3. The Dressphere SYSTEM was alright, a b-tch to deal with in battle, but alright. The designs were Grade-A hentai material. Anybody got the Berserker Dressphere? You know what I mean.

Do You Think ANY Final Fantasy Producers Are CAPABLE Of Putting Something With Hentai Airs??? Are You Just CRAZY? Oh, And The Bersker Dressphere, What Does It Have?? I Think Lady Luck Is FAR MORE Terrible, And What About JESSICA FROM DQVIII!? The Only Thing They Showed In Berseker, Was Lil' Brassiers, NOTHING ELSE. What About Final Fantasy VII?? In One Part, When Cloud Goes To The Honey I Dunno What, Mucky Arrives At The Room, And They Start Doing Strange Things With Cloud...So?? FFX-2 Wasn't THE VIOLATION¬¬ And, Further More, What They Were Trying To Show With This "**** Yuna" Was The Will Power, That She Was Going On, That She WOULDN'T Fall Depressed And She'd Do ANYTHING To Get Tidus Back

Originally Posted by Gondor Reficul

4. What about the cutscenes man?

^

Emmm, The Cutscenes Were Funny, The Characters Had Human Movements, And They Have The Best Graphics AFTER Final Fantasy XII

[Yoherz]

Originally Posted by Slythe

Like the title?

Here are my reasons.
1:Because it gives you insite on the tough Yuna
2:The battle system
3ress-spheres
4:The cutscenes

and more.I just ccan't think of them at the moment.

Originally Posted by Gondor Reficul

Okay...I'll give you my mirrored explanations to your reasons:

1. Yuna dresses up like a f-ing sl-t, totally ruing her new tough personality.
2. The battle system really shouldn't have changed from FFX...period
3. The Dressphere SYSTEM was alright, a b-tch to deal with in battle, but alright. The designs were Grade-A hentai material. Anybody got the Berserker Dressphere? You know what I mean.
4. What about the cutscenes man?

Lemme see if I can mirror off Gondor and Slythe:
1. Agreed with Gondor. They made her "tough" but turned her into a s*** in a mini-skirt, aside from that this Yuna is practically the COMPLETE opposite of the Yuna we all came to know and love.
2. Agreed with Gondor, again. It went from completely turnbased to semi-realtime. Which, is another problem I have with games, regardless of what game it is. If they're going to make it turnbased or realtime, DON'T put timebars in it, don't split it. Either make it fully realtime, or completely turnbased.
3. It was a BIT original, but they got the idea from FFT (as the review in the video Fissure posted had mentioned) and attempted to recreate it in a realtime situation. The fact that they ripped it from another game at all ticks me off, just how they ripped off FFXI to make FFXII.
And yes, Berserker and other dresspheres are softcore hentai. Simply horrible.
4. Same question as Gondor.

Originally Posted by Lewelynikki

And There He Goes Again U_U' *Hides* XD

Yup. I'm jumping in too.

Originally Posted by Lewelynikki

WHEN WILL YOU UNDERSTAND GUYS!? DON'T YOU NOTICE GLOBAL WARNING IS NIOT JUST HAPPENING IN THE EARTH PLANET!? XD SPIRA IS A FUTURE PLANET, SO GLOBAL WARNING MUST HAVE ADVANCED A LOT YOU KNOW! XD

Oh no. You're going into science now. Now the ball is in my court.

Global warming is only the result of the greenhouse gases building up from the VERY large amounts of pollution produced by the factories on Earth.
The fact that they had never even used machina (excluding the Al Bhed, whom used it small amounts as to not 'attract Sin') and had only a time span of four years (was it four?) difference, I SERIOUSLY doubt that they could build up the amount of pollution in those few years that it took us.....what? a few hundred years?

Originally Posted by Lewelynikki

Ooh, There You Are Commiting A FATAL Mistake, C'mon Gonder, You CANNOT Say Battles Weren't Cool, This Was A TOTAL BUMMER, It Was Almost Realtime

The FFX battle system allowed you to sit and think about your next few attacks and the results, which is VERY important if the game is hard. To make you have to choose an attack at the flick of a monster attack with it only being semi-realtime, is just plain annoying.
I can see they were TRYING to get you going and get you excited or whatever, but a semi-realtime battle system won't do that if you've got timebars and have to sit and wait for an attack, sit and wait for the pointlessly long dress sphere change, or even for a timebar to finish filling while you're enemy is sitting there attacking you. A fully realtime battle system wouldhave been a much better choice for what they were aiming for, or even a fully turnbased still would have been better for this game.

Originally Posted by Lewelynikki

Do You Think ANY Final Fantasy Producers Are CAPABLE Of Putting Something With Hentai Airs??? Are You Just CRAZY? Oh, And The Bersker Dressphere, What Does It Have?? I Think Lady Luck Is FAR MORE Terrible, And What About JESSICA FROM DQVIII!? The Only Thing They Showed In Berseker, Was Lil' Brassiers, NOTHING ELSE. What About Final Fantasy VII?? In One Part, When Cloud Goes To The Honey I Dunno What, Mucky Arrives At The Room, And They Start Doing Strange Things With Cloud...So?? FFX-2 Wasn't THE VIOLATION¬¬ And, Further More, What They Were Trying To Show With This "**** Yuna" Was The Will Power, That She Was Going On, That She WOULDN'T Fall Depressed And She'd Do ANYTHING To Get Tidus Back

Jessica had cleavage. No more than Lulu, which is why we called her "dangerously overly exposed Lu." So yes, they can VERY well put things with hentai airs in it. The massage was MORE than proof enough.
Also, the berserker was about *cough*bestiality*cough*. Wiki it if you're not sure what it is.
And, the Cloud thing, he only hit on 'em. They didn't show him half-naked in a bikini top and mini-skirt. BIG difference.

But wait. Wasn't the whole point of the game "Yuna is strong and doesn't need Tidus or other men now"? Then doesn't her "need" for him contradict the entire feminine point of the game in itself?

Originally Posted by Lewelynikki

Emmm, The Cutscenes Were Funny, The Characters Had Human Movements, And They Have The Best Graphics AFTER Final Fantasy XII

The only reason they had good graphics was because they came out this late on, and because SE blows all their money trying to make everything look as shiny as possible, instead of actually making the actual game itself any good.
Though, even KH1 had good human movements, and it was an excellent game without all the shiny crap everywhere.

[Gondor Reficul]

I agree with Yoherz, though SE can't rip-off of itself and I can deal with Active Time battle systems.

Let's not forget that the dressing like a sl-t part wasn't just talking about the intro, it's talking about the whole f-ing game!

[Yoherz]

Originally Posted by Gondor Reficul

I agree with Yoherz, though SE can't rip-off of itself and I can deal with Active Time battle systems.

Let's not forget that the dressing like a sl-t part wasn't just talking about the intro, it's talking about the whole f-ing game!

I meant more that they ripped from SS, whom actually came up with the idea.
And the semi-realtime are just a pet peeve of mine. if they do it properly like in FFXI, then that's the only time I'll accept it.
Either way, I still say a fully-realtime battle system would have been better suited to the game.

Yup. I think there was only like two exceptions. Mascot and.....something. I can't really remember it, nor do I really want to remember it.

[Gondor Reficul]

You like fully real-time battles, yet you hate Tales of games, which along with Star Ocean, started the whole real-time thing.

Though I won't complain about it here.

I think Samurai was the other non-revealing Dressphere.

[<Xeros>]

Ok ok, those who want to criticize the game again should go to the other topic, and post here only things in favor of the game. If you can't find any, I don't think it's necessary to post.

1- I actually like Yuna's outfit, it doesn't show that much (not as Rikku's anyway)
2- The battle system was good, it was fun learning different skills progressively, although I'd like the enemies in the first parts of the game to be tougher but well, I enjoyed the battle system anyway
3-Paine was a great character to add, at least she had background.


Well, I don't think I can think of any other good aspects this game might have =S

[Gondor Reficul]

Well it'd be impossible NOT to. People who like FFX-2 have made their defense on the other thread, so it's not like it really matters, it just tells us exactly why you like it and it'll be more apparent on this thread.

[Yoherz]

Originally Posted by Gondor Reficul

You like fully real-time battles, yet you hate Tales of games, which along with Star Ocean, started the whole real-time thing.

Though I won't complain about it here.

I think Samurai was the other non-revealing Dressphere.

Well, I just don't like the battle controls for ToA is all. The whateveritscalled thing that you have to press to move up an down annoys me. I'd prefer it to be if I move the analog up, they run upwards, down if I move it down, and so forth. Like KH and SO3. I have no problem with the ToA battle system otherwise.

Yeah, Samurai sounds right.

Originally Posted by <Xeros>

Ok ok, those who want to criticize the game again should go to the other topic, and post here only things in favor of the game. If you can't find any, I don't think it's necessary to post.

1- I actually like Yuna's outfit, it doesn't show that much (not as Rikku's anyway)
2- The battle system was good, it was fun learning different skills progressively, although I'd like the enemies in the first parts of the game to be tougher but well, I enjoyed the battle system anyway
3-Paine was a great character to add, at least she had background.

Well, it's good to ahve both positive and negative aspects of a game to be present. It gives the gamer a much better idea about it before purchasing it for themselves.

1. Not as bad as Rikku's, I'll admit that. Though, her other outfits can be far worse.
2, Still a rip-off of SS's FFT. Would have made it much better if the levels carried over too.
3. True. Only reason I liked her is because she was like when Rikku or Yuna got too annoying.

Originally Posted by Gondor Reficul

Well it'd be impossible NOT to. People who like FFX-2 have made their defense on the other thread, so it's not like it really matters, it just tells us exactly why you like it and it'll be more apparent on this thread.

Yup. Then we can properly debate it and avoid flaming.